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Mike Mann:

Okay guys, we did it again. I’m even on time, shockingly. So I’m so excited, my friend Ron Jackson is gonna be here in a couple minutes. And as you know, he’s the leader of the domain industry, the publisher of DN Journal, domain name journal, dndjournal.com, who has documented the entire domain name industry since the beginning, all of the conferences, all of the largest domain name sales, all of the most interesting people.

Mike Mann:

And he’s got quite a story and a background. And we’re really excited that Ron’s gonna be with us momentarily. You cannot pull up the information on Facebook about Ron’s background, as you can see. And…

Mike Mann:

I’ll just say. Let’s set up my equipment here, and we’re letting a few people join the live stream. After this, we’re gonna have, after Ron, we’re gonna have Glenn Pounder of Child Rescue Coalition, which is an awesome charity that develops the tools and software to help police departments find predators online and help save children, obviously.

Mike Mann:

So he’s an awesome guy after Ron. When we’re done with that, we’re gonna do live domain name training like we always do. So I’m really excited that you guys are here with me today. So, give me one second here.

Mike Mann:

So, we’re gonna do some live domain name training at the moment, and then Glenn and Ron are gonna join us afterwards. If you guys have any particular domains you need to praise as long as they’re awesome domains, you can add them to the list, but it’s better if we just do really valuable ones.

Mike Mann:

So I’m gonna pull up some of the valuable ones on my own list, and we can appraise them together. It’s really a training session to teach you how to fish as opposed to fishing for you. And just keep in mind that there’s these appraisal tools out there in the world that are using bots and algorithms to attempt to appraise domains, and they’re really counterproductive because they’re giving you just sort of random information.

Mike Mann:

It’s really hard for me, a great domain appraiser, to manually appraise domains with a bunch of tools and a bunch of help, which means a bot couldn’t possibly do that job. And therefore the results that it spits out are not helpful ultimately.

Mike Mann:

So we’ll do a few domain name appraisals, and if somebody knows where Ron Jackson: is, they can check on him for us. But luckily I have a list of killer domains here, and though we’re gonna pull up some appraisals, sorry, I’m getting a bit of a slow start this morning, but I’m gonna ramp it up any moment.

Mike Mann:

Thank you. Okay, Howard, thank you. Use tires .com. Hazard has mindinitiative .com. That sounds pretty good. Steven has 2VI. Devam has Kukar4U. That’s a crappy one, I think, because I don’t know what it means.

Mike Mann:

If I don’t know what it means, can’t be that great. So let’s talk about the process of appraising a domain. We’re breaking it down into three parts. What we’re doing is, first, we’re disambiguating it to figure out what it means and understand it, try to understand if it’s a relevant commercial expression that’s spelled properly, that’s meaningful, and therefore it’s worth more than $0.

Mike Mann:

Next, we’re trying to figure out the breadth of the domain, and after that, we’re trying to figure out the depth. So the breadth is how many companies or people might want to buy it, and the depth is who is the best buyer and how much could they conceptually pay for it.

Mike Mann:

That’s where the real action is. So you guys, thank you. You put a lot of good domains up there for me to appraise. Now that we know the process, we’re gonna do that. And some of you guys are gonna call Ron Jackson: for me and make sure he didn’t set his alarm wrong or something.

Mike Mann:

This is from like a Seinfeld episode, I think. The guy missed the Olympics because he set his alarm wrong. This is the domain name Olympics. So we’re going to go and order Hazrat. Kate was first. Smartest guy, the early bird gets the worm.

Mike Mann:

We’re going to appraisemindinitiative .com. First thing I’m going to do is share my screen with you guys. Bam. Think I’m going to? Hold on a sec. Chrome tab, new tab, share. All right, we’re in business.

Mike Mann:

So we do everything Boolean because Google’s app that it forces us to use Boolean because it doesn’t want us to get the results we’re looking for. So unfortunately, it ignores my capital letters also, which is a big problem.

Mike Mann:

And also, it really ignores the quotes in the sense that it will add punctuation in the middle of my expression, even though I’m explicitly not asking for that. So this pull down thing has some information, too, that we can use to get some context around the domain.

Mike Mann:

Again, right now we’re trying to find out what it means. This is backwards, initiativemindmeeting. Mind initiative, UPenn. So that’s something. So we’ll look into that a little further. Again, what does it mean?

Mike Mann:

Looks like UPenn is the winner here, the mind initiative, molecular integration in neurological diagnosis. It’s a mouthful. It’s an awesome name, though. There’s a mind initiative in Bucharest. The Wharton School is actually at the University of Penn, where Trump went to.

Mike Mann:

Presumably, he paid somebody to get through it all and never really went to class or qualified, I’m guessing. But maybe he did, who the hell knows. Piece of mind initiative, mind initiative, mind initiative and aging.

Mike Mann:

OK, so as far as what it means, it means a little bit of something to some people. The breadth is that it means a little bit of something to some people. And the depth is that it means a lot to one person, which is the University of Pennsylvania.

Mike Mann:

We’ll look at some images to see if there’s additional meaning here. There’s my buddy, Ron. What’s up, my man? We’re going to finish this domain appraisal and go in out of order here. So mind initiative, mind initiative, mind initiative, very cool, all over the place.

Mike Mann:

So this is a really good name. It means something to some people. It has a little bit of depth to a little bit of people. And it’s worth 10 ,000 bucks. What else can I tell you? I’ll post it. And then we’re going to talk to Ron up a little while.

Mike Mann:

We’re going to talk to Glenn. And then we’re going to do more domain names. OK, we’ll move that. Ron, how are you, sir?

Ron Jackson:

I’m doing good. Thank you. You know, I was in your virtual green room and I looked at the clock and I said, you know what? Maybe I’m supposed to hit this enter studio button. So I don’t know if I should have been waiting and So I got a logic complaint right away.

Ron Jackson:

There were no virtual treats nor virtual drinks in the virtual green room. So

Mike Mann:

list your agent supposed to have a list of demands like

Ron Jackson:

I know, yeah, you know, like the rock bands would, they tell the arenas, they had to have only certain colored M &Ms in the plate and that sort of thing, but I’m not that difficult yet. I’m probably getting there.

Ron Jackson:

You know, it actually sounds like it kind of

Mike Mann:

a good idea. You could have people like be delivered something from FedEx right before their Zoom calls like here’s your ad and paper and some coffee and let’s have an awesome Zoom call and here’s where you sign on the dotted line.

Ron Jackson:

You know, Amazon is building a big local fulfillment center about one mile east of us, and they’re talking about you order something, it within the hour is gonna be on your doorstep, if you’re within a three mile radius of this new fulfillment center.

Ron Jackson:

It’s not like the giant warehouses, we have one of those in Tampa also, but these are new things they’re doing. But the size of the thing is still mind boggling just to serve a three mile radius. It looks like a $50 million project, just amazing stuff.

Ron Jackson:

But they can do exactly what you’re talking about. You just came up, starting to think of domains related to that one hour delivery to people are gonna be on Zoom calls, that’s a great idea. Very good.

Mike Mann:

There you go. There’s probably, you know, it’s, you know, merging the land and the internet, you know, is an old concept that I think Amazon is already the master of.

Ron Jackson:

No doubt. Hey, by the way, where are you today? I see the sun in the background. Are you in Delaware? Are you in Florida? I’m in Boca. In Boca. That looks like a nice day over here, of course, on the other coast outside Tampa.

Ron Jackson:

And we finally got some gorgeous fall weather.

Mike Mann:

Awesome. Yeah, it’s really nice here at the moment. It’s been raining for like a month, I think. But it’s still really windy. It’s sort of too windy to go out almost, but it’s really nice temperature though.

Mike Mann:

Right. Yeah, I love it. Cool. So thanks again for coming. What I want to do is do your family background, your business background, and then current events. You can tell me about rock and roll and journalism and whatever you want to do.

Ron Jackson:

Yeah, that sounds like fun. Well, I grew up actually you and I have something in common. We’re both from Delaware The difference is your home base for a long time Delaware State And I’m from a little town in central Ohio called Delaware There was an Indian tribe across the Northeast.

Ron Jackson:

So there are lots of Delaware’s is a Delaware County in Pennsylvania But anyhow, I’m from Delaware, Ohio It’s a small college town about 25 miles north of Columbus the great great place to grow up when I live there I grew up.

Ron Jackson:

We had about 30 ,000 people one high school Every all the families knew each other. So it’s all very cool Came from a working -class family. My dad was a blue collar worker had come up from Appalachia in the 1930s From West Virginia and initially worked on farms for $1 a day That’s what they made for a hard labor all day But if they they came up to get jobs in the factories, which he did and he did well eventually became a foreman in a local factory But that had a big influence on what I decided I wanted to do with my life My dad never complained raise a family of four boys But he would say every now and then that he couldn’t wait until he could retire so that he could do what he wanted to do and To me always felt kind of sad about that because he’s in his 30s Strong guy and he couldn’t wait till he was an old man to do what he wants to do So I said, you know what and and I’m probably 10 12 years old I said whatever I do in life It’s going to have to be something that I love to do and I’m not gonna worry about the money part of it You know, I’d be happy if I don’t care if I’m running a bedroom in someone’s house, you know I’m gonna do what I love to do So the problem I had is I didn’t have any talent to speak of I loved music And we will talk about music and I love sports like all teenage boys love girls But that doesn’t pay very well the music and the sports could if you were good at it But I was neither of those so going into my senior year in high school I still had no idea what I was going to do But one day I in the summer before senior year I did play amateur baseball in high school and the local radio station would Do an interview with whoever say had the game winning hit after the game so I got to be on with the local radio guy and After one of those sessions, he said, you know, you have a good voice Do you ever think about going into radio and I said I was real my ears perked up and I said yeah And he said well, they’ve started a new broadcasting school in Columbus And he said he recommended it.

Ron Jackson:

It was that they had hired local professional broadcasters to teach kids So I enrolled there because I thought okay, I can you know, I can go on the radio and talk about music play records I can talk about sports do sports casting So I learned all that in broadcasting school and his radio station ended up ended up hiring me So that started me out.

Ron Jackson:

That’s how I got started in the business world as a teenager

Mike Mann:

I will unmute. I was trying to show off my Chris Cornell. Yeah, I like it. That’s nice. It’s hard to like get it centered in the thing. Right? But I heard your story and then I appreciate your story.

Mike Mann:

I do live in Delaware part -time my whole life, but I’m technically from Washington, D .C. not too far away.

Ron Jackson:

that form from the first cover story we did on you in D &Journal which was back the year we started was January 1st 2003 and you were one of the first year cover stories when we started that whole tradition and in fact I reviewed that this morning yeah I was talking going back through it and refreshing my memory from how you got your start with an internet service provider in Washington DC so I remember all that background.

Ron Jackson:

There’s some things that I’ve learned about you since then that we’ll talk about as we go along here about your fascination with drums and that’ll kind of figure into our music discussion I think we’ll talk a little bit about.

Mike Mann:

You do have the best radio voice and you are the only real journalist that I know. So what I’d recommend is that the next time you interview me on my live stream, this time I interview you.

Ron Jackson:

I’m actually going to sneak some questions in on you so it’s probably going to go both ways this time as well. Okay, well I’m going to go ahead and get started.

Mike Mann:

I’m going to have Glen on in a little while. So we’re going to do another one in a little while. But, um, yeah, absolutely.

Ron Jackson:

Absolutely, you can send me off there anytime you want to. I don’t want to send you off. I can talk to you for hours, but I just don’t want.

Mike Mann:

just promised everybody Glenn was gonna come on also. So in any event, we’re gonna talk for a little while. But back just to finish off your background and then talk about DN Journal and then whatever else you want.

Mike Mann:

So you work for ABC and some big name stations and then when you realize that our domain industry didn’t have a voice, certainly not a professional voice, you decided to be that voice. And from everybody’s perspective, you’ve been that voice ever since the beginning and here we are whatever 20 years later after domain trading started.

Ron Jackson:

Yeah, well, the way that progression went, I mentioned I started at my hometown radio station and I had a very inauspicious debut. If you’ve been in a radio station, you know, they have the console in front of you and when you start a record, you switch off your microphone.

Ron Jackson:

You had your microphone off while you’re doing some things there. So I was in probably the first week in the studio and I was like 19 years old. I had this bad habit of when I would start a record, I would lean back in the chair, put my feet up on the edge of the console.

Ron Jackson:

And I did that one day and my chair went over backwards and you hear this huge crash in the studio and I jump up and I’m swearing a blue streak. And cause I’m just like, I hit my head and I knock record stacks everywhere.

Ron Jackson:

And as all this is going on, the general manager comes rushing into the studio and I look up at him, he looks over the console, reached down and turns my mic off. I had forgotten to turn the mic off.

Ron Jackson:

So this is going, went out all over the air and fortunately the guy said, well, he’s a kid, he’s just learning and he let me slide and fortunately we became pretty good friends from that. Luckily it’s before the end.

Mike Mann:

age of Jeffrey Tubman.

Ron Jackson:

Yeah, exactly. So I got drafted before I think it was a year and a half. I went into an army, fortunately, put me on Army Radio TV in Augusta, Georgia at Fort Gordon. One of the six guys in that office was Steve Croft, whose name you know from 60 Minutes.

Ron Jackson:

I’ve known Steve since he had just come out of Syracuse University. Yeah, he had just graduated from Syracuse. So we were all young guys in that office after the army back to Ohio. But having been in Georgia where it’s nice and warm and loving the weather, I decided I wanted to go south.

Ron Jackson:

So I’ve learned that this group in Sarasota, Florida had just started a new ABC TV station. And they also had radio stations. So they had an opening for a DJ and newscaster. But they paid half in Florida what they do up north.

Ron Jackson:

They pay you in sunshine and they still do today for the most part. So I said, look, I would take the radio job for less money because I also had an offer in Pennsylvania at the time. But you got to let me work in your new TV station one day a week and I’ll do anything you want me to do.

Ron Jackson:

So they say, I will find something for you to do come on down. So I went down got the radio job. My first TV job was in between the six and 11 o ‘clock news, they would rent the studio out to local organizations to film commercials and things or even short programs.

Ron Jackson:

There was a local mobile home park that took a half hour to have these old people square dancing to try to sell mobile homes. So my job was on the studio camera doing this square dancing. And I’m going man, this is not what I would dream really dreamed of it as my break into TV.

Ron Jackson:

But fortunately, having been on radio, they let me start filling in on the TV station, doing weather news, sports. Finally, the sportscaster left. I got the job I wanted. Had some great years in Sarasota, then moved up the road to Tampa, had another nice stretch there 83 to 89.

Ron Jackson:

And by 89, I wanted to, you know, this whole love of music came back to me and I wanted to start my own business. So a year before I left Channel 13 in Tampa, I started a record store called Rock Island.

Ron Jackson:

In fact, we had all of our own merchandise. We had beach bags and t -shirts and sweatshirts and and coffee mugs. I’m wasting my time here because we don’t have any merchandise anymore left to sell. But just wanted to show you we had a whole chain of record stores around Tampa.

Ron Jackson:

So I loved all that, that those 12 great years. And then the internet came in and wiped out all of the record stores, even tower records, saying good they all went down, as you know, because of CD burning came in.

Ron Jackson:

And also there was Napster came along, you could download the music so no one was going in the stores anymore. So now I’m searching for something to do. And one day it was 2002. I was leaving through a computer magazine, PC World.

Ron Jackson:

There was a full page ad in there that Newstar, who was the dot US registry. And still is though they just sold the registry operations to go daddy. But anyhow, Newstar put I think the only ad I’ve ever seen for dot US they were promoting.

Ron Jackson:

And I thought I looked at that and I go you know when I got my domain name for my stores, which was musicparadise .com, I had a hard time finding a domain even in 97. The store name was actually Rock Island, as you saw on the merchandise, but Rock Island was already taken .com.

Ron Jackson:

So I thought maybe this dot US thing would be something. So anyhow, I started searching on Google and I stumbled upon de -inform, and these people are talking about buying and selling domain name. That’s where I saw your name for the first time and learned about what you had done and got even more interested in it.

Ron Jackson:

So in that search for information, I couldn’t find any resources. There were no magazines and music. We had billboard magazine broadcasting had broadcasting magazine. So since I couldn’t find it, I said, well, I’ve always been a journalist.

Ron Jackson:

I’ll start one. And that’s how the journal came about. And in, like I said, New Year’s Day of 2003 is when we started. So we’ll be hitting our 18th year here in 2021.

Mike Mann:

very impressive. So what are the questions that you want to ask me and how can people make money today on domain names and then like five minutes we’re going to add Glenn.

Ron Jackson:

Okay, well, one thing I was gonna ask you that I didn’t ask you in that first cover story and learn later is that you were a drummer, you collect drums, they were all over the place. I just wondered how you got into that particular instrument and are you still really active in that?

Mike Mann:

Yes, sir. Well, that’s relatively easy is I just smashed on every on pots and pans and tables and desks and pens and pencils and till my parents bought me drums.

Ron Jackson:

So was that out of anger or just you like the… There was always music.

Mike Mann:

playing everywhere. You know, it’s like my family had a lot of music. Actually, I was just really blessed, you know, Washington, DC and Bethesda, the neighborhood I was from, the kids I knew were tons of great skilled trained musicians.

Mike Mann:

I actually, I was a little bit trained to be a drummer, not ton, but my friends to this day are incredible musicians and I try to meet new ones, if I can. So they just let me sort of play along. And so I do the best I can.

Mike Mann:

But since I’m playing with great musicians, it raises my own level. And then I do collect hand drums from all over the world. So I have tons of really cool pieces. And I have a traditional drum set also.

Ron Jackson:

So who is the best rock drummer ever? Settle that for us.

Mike Mann:

Well, the best ever, the one I listen to the most.

Ron Jackson:

Yeah, that makes sense.

Mike Mann:

I like listening to Nirvana and Foo Fighters all the time. So I’m always listening to Dave Grohl, even though sometimes he’s singing and not playing drums. But I like just a lot of classic rock bands and the classic rock songs and good quality stuff.

Mike Mann:

I post a lot of cool stuff. You’re going to interview me next time. You can come on anytime. We can talk for hours because we barely got started to the point at the end. We’ll let it go.

Ron Jackson:

do that. As far as domains, it’s, I don’t think the game’s changed a lot since we started back, well you in the 90s and me in early 2000s, is finding undervalued assets. That’s where your appraisal thing, I think, comes in so handy to people.

Ron Jackson:

The big mistake I made when I came in is I didn’t understand what made a domain a good name. I didn’t understand search and how search worked and how that adds value and how much value does it add. I think the biggest mistake people make is that they think it’s easy.

Ron Jackson:

You just come in and you just start registering stuff. But there’s a long learning curve, I think at least a year, maybe two, where you really start understanding that by going to every resource you can find.

Ron Jackson:

And then, and it’s a tougher landscape today because they’re more competitors. Initially, guys who knew what they were doing like you were just like hoovering up everything. But there were about four or five guys who liked you operating at the same time who just nailed down so many fantastic domains because you got it before so many other people did.

Ron Jackson:

So I think it’s a tougher game now because of the competition. But there are always opportunities and niches that you can find, new technologies that come up. And you know, there are things that people will read science magazines and find out some’s coming out in four or five years and they’ve registered domains that go from zero to twenty thousand dollars overnight.

Ron Jackson:

For the longest time, you would report, you kept records of how much you paid for a domain. You could see how much it was sold for. But a lot of those were advanced thinking where you were looking way down the road for opportunities because it’s harder a lot of times to find the ones that are there at that moment.

Mike Mann:

Yeah, I only post the good news. I don’t post my expenses or my broken code or my broken people or anything like that or my broken banks. I think we all trying to have

Ron Jackson:

that bias toward the successes, but there are lots of failures in there too. Certainly, I’ve had them myself. And in domains in general, the common rule of thumb is that no matter how big your portfolio is, odds are you’re only going to turn over 1 to 2% in a year.

Ron Jackson:

So it’s way worse than baseball. Yeah, and it’s way worse than baseball. Like if you bat 200, you’re horrible. That’s still 20% success rate. But in in domains, you’re batting more like 0 .20 and just to be successful.

Mike Mann:

I mean, I’m a promoter, but ultimately I tell people that it’s extraordinarily hard and risky and expensive, but I try to promote the industry truthfully to the best of my ability. Right. So anyway, I really appreciate you coming on and I’m going to message you later about your next visit, and we’ll talk again soon.

Ron Jackson:

Certainly been my pleasure. Great to see you, Mike. Thank you, Ron. Take care. Say hi to Diana.

Mike Mann:

I will. Thank you. Thank you. Glenn, thanks so much for joining me, us.

Glen Pounder

No problem mate, nice to put a face to the name.

Mike Mann:

Absolutely. Sorry we’re running a little late. Ron’s got a ton of information. He’s actually like a real journalist, was all prepared with a ton of information where we’re not used to that. So I had to cut him off.

Mike Mann:

Unfortunately, I’m gonna bring him back soon. I can bring you back anytime. Anybody who’s good and enjoys visiting. So anyway, I posted a little bit about you on my Facebook, on my live stream. You’re welcome to post anything you want.

Mike Mann:

What I like to do with everybody is do their family background, their personal and business background, and then talk about what they’re doing today, and then how people watching the stream can get involved, and how they should get involved.

Glen Pounder

Okay, now, excellent, thank you. And thanks for the opportunity to talk with you and everyone watching today. So yeah, my name is Glenn Pounder. And as you and probably anyone else can work out, I’m not American.

Glen Pounder

I’m a former British law enforcement officer who’s now relocated permanently to the US with my family, so my wife and my two boys. Actually, the older one’s now a man, he’s coming up for 23. And our younger son is 14.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, spent many, many years in service of Her Majesty the Queen in various UK law enforcement agencies. Honestly, Mike fighting every type of crime that you can imagine. So you name the type of crime, I’ve probably helped either myself or with colleagues, locked them up for, so probably hundreds of suspects for thousands of years.

Glen Pounder

So well.

Mike Mann:

I’d like to thank you for everybody you’ve helped.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, and thank you on your.

Mike Mann:

colleagues, you know, I’m a big supporter of good quality law enforcement, especially nowadays with the riding in the streets.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, so, you know, it’s been a very rewarding ride in my law enforcement years, but obviously also very challenging. And then the last several years I’ve been involved in specialist child protection operations, which led me to resigning from the Queen service and come in permanently to the US to work at Child Rescue Coalition, which is where I work now as the Chief Operating Officer.

Mike Mann:

Okay, and that’s a 501C3 charity.

Glen Pounder

It is exactly that. We’ve been in operation now six years. The technology’s been running a little bit longer than that. And it’s funny that you’ve got Ron there mentioned Napster because Napster and file sharing networks like it are one of the networks that we monitor for child sexual abuse material.

Glen Pounder

So they’re super efficient networks. And of course, that means that bad guys use those same networks to trade what we call child sexual abuse material. And Napster they do? On the technology that Napster used to use, file sharing networks.

Mike Mann:

They actually own by somebody. They’re sort of amorphous things in the inner, in the cloud.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, and that’s a great question. And because they’re not owned by anyone now, there’s no corporate structure. These networks can’t be closed down by traditional means. We can’t go and knock on the door somewhere and say, this horrific material is going on in your network, because it’s not a Facebook.

Glen Pounder

And it’s not one of the tech companies.

Mike Mann:

We do have ISPs and IP numbers that somebody’s giving them access to the internet.

Glen Pounder

They absolutely do and we’d love in the kind of medium term to work directly with ISPs to say, hey, these IP addresses are trading child abuse material right now today on your network. We don’t have those contacts right now.

Glen Pounder

We provide technology free to law enforcement worldwide, which allows them to locate and identify and arrest people trading this child abuse material. And as we’ve seen in thousands of cases, rescue children as well.

Mike Mann:

Well, I want to get into this in some more detail, and then we’re going to go back to your background, because I’m going out of order, but this is important information. So let’s just, I’m just trying to break down what’s happening here.

Mike Mann:

You guys have some software and some tools, and then if you have a relationship with law enforcement agencies around the world, they can adopt your software and your tools onto their platforms.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, exactly that. So what happens, Mike, is that they attend a three -day training course. So it has to be licensed law enforcement investigators, like I said, in many countries around the world. Now we now have 96 countries operating the technology that we provide free to them as part of our non -501C3 status.

Glen Pounder

And after they’ve conducted this three -day training, actually during the course, they start their own investigation. So by day three, they’re actually investigating a real target in their jurisdiction.

Glen Pounder

So a cop in Florida.

Mike Mann:

always the software can always constantly identify people everywhere.

Glen Pounder

So a Cop in Florida sees targets in Florida Cop in France

Mike Mann:

there will probably a lot in Florida. But let me ask you, what about the places that aren’t covered by law enforcement or software?

Glen Pounder

Yeah, so and that’s one of our, I’ll be honest with you, that’s one of our big concerns. So we’re always looking to expand our technology because again in the tech world, if you’re not moving forward, you’re really slipping backwards quickly.

Mike Mann:

So what’s the largest region that doesn’t have any coverage?

Glen Pounder

in the tech space or do you mean with the jurisdiction?

Mike Mann:

risk geography that doesn’t have any law enforcement on this sort of thing.

Glen Pounder

Well, obviously it’s difficult for us. We try not to call out countries by saying they’re not using our technology. But you can think of countries like China and places like that where we don’t have any footprint at all.

Glen Pounder

Thank you.

Mike Mann:

So is there a model to have a footprint in China?

Glen Pounder

There’s not right now. I mean, we do have contacts with Interpol and organizations like that, so we present.

Mike Mann:

Which is the next one in line that’s realistic to put your yours or your competitors type of process in place?

Glen Pounder

In terms of countries we have lined up right now, a good example is Morocco.

Mike Mann:

I wanted to help you get this done in Morocco. What would I need to do?

Glen Pounder

If you can cure COVID first, that would be a good starting point.

Mike Mann:

Well, let’s pretend that these people have, you know, vaccines that are going to work and COVID is going to be gone in six months.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, so we have a plan then for Morocco and some neighboring countries. So for Morocco, we did what we call a workshop, a one day workshop to sensitize, not just law enforcement of course, because it needs the judiciary.

Glen Pounder

So we sensitized law enforcement and the judiciary to the problem as we see it in Morocco and the leads that we could provide them. So we saw it really as a two step process. They see the technology and understand the level of risk they’re dealing with.

Glen Pounder

And then they say, yes, we can integrate the technology.

Mike Mann:

people watching this broadcast help you cover additional regions.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, I mean, one thing I would say is please head to our webpage, childrescuecoalition .org. Obviously, we are a 501, so we do look for donations, but we also provide some really good educational tips, which are all free on the website, so that people can look at ways in which they can protect their devices, for example, the settings on their devices, making sure that

Mike Mann:

from what?

Glen Pounder

Well, for example, bad guys will go on social media and look for certain hashtags. So if you put baby bath time next to a photo that you’re sending out in social media, that’s the kind of thing that bad guys, unfortunately, will be looking for.

Glen Pounder

And they will zone in on indicative hashtags. So I’d encourage people to do that.

Mike Mann:

I care if they come to my site.

Glen Pounder

Well, if your watches are putting pictures of their kids online, then bad guys can fire you. Yeah, yeah.

Mike Mann:

I see what you’re saying. Great, I got you.

Glen Pounder

So, yeah.

Mike Mann:

I’m gonna put pictures of my kids online.

Glen Pounder

Absolutely, bath time is way out. You see what I’m saying? I mean, obviously we all have our crucial networks, but I would just encourage people to be careful what they put out there. And I’ll tell you one other thing, Mike, because you’ll won’t hear what I’m going to say next very often.

Glen Pounder

Everything you read in the press and everything I see regularly, it’s the big tech companies fall and strangers are the ones abusing your kids online. And don’t get me wrong, that does happen. Grooming happens online and that’s true.

Glen Pounder

Unfortunately, evidence shows that the majority of kids who are abused are already in the circle of trust. So it’s your gym coaches, your teachers, parents, uncles. So, you know, it’s not…

Mike Mann:

That goes without saying, I mean, because they’re the ones, they’re the only people that can get near them theoretically.

Glen Pounder

Exactly, but you know, I’m 49 now. So when I got home, when I was 12 and I was safe in my bedroom, I was safe. But of course now, going into the bedroom for a 12 year old is going into the Wild West if you’re going on the internet.

Mike Mann:

I mean, just for your knowledge, you know, for like at least a year, I was like a hitchhiking teenager, runaway, you know, throwaway kid, like hitchhiking around. So all sorts of freaks like me up. Luckily, I was, I was an excellent escape artist.

Glen Pounder

You don’t do that and as you know that’s where kids can end up being trafficked when they’ve gone into those situations, renovating homes.

Mike Mann:

I have to say though, I am traumatized because I can remember tons of different incidents as luckily I was never successfully abused. But I mean, I was exposed to a bunch of horrific like predators though.

Mike Mann:

Yeah. So I know what you’re talking about, unfortunately.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, and it’s horrendous because there’s no magic bullet for this, and there’s so many different types of offenders as well. So I’d say I don’t want to lessen the fact that there is grooming online going on right now, as we’re talking, by guys who are in gaming rooms and other places where they will form a relationship with the child pretty quickly.

Glen Pounder

And so when the child is told, be careful, you talk to strangers online, well they don’t regard that engagement as a stranger, exactly, because they’ve been groomed.

Mike Mann:

Well, you have some information about this also.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, you can find tips on our education page at childrescuecollection .org.

Mike Mann:

I’ll post some more links. I’ll post some more links as well, but you can post stuff on my wall. Anytime I can, I’ll share it with people and tell them how to get involved. Let me, since I jumped ahead, you’re telling me more about your background from England and then you got this job opportunity here and moved your family here.

Mike Mann:

So, or did…

Glen Pounder

Yeah, so I started in British customs, actually, investigation way back in the late 80s. And again, you know, this speaks to how quickly the technology’s changed and legislation doesn’t keep up with technology.

Glen Pounder

Okay, so when I started in customs, the first case I was involved in, which was a transportation of child sexual abuse material was across the UK border on a VHS tape. Now, you and I might remember those, right?

Glen Pounder

But in that time, since the mid 90s, obviously with the explosion of the internet, that particular bad guy doesn’t need to figure out a way of finding who might send him a VHS tape. So my first experience of that was that way back in the 90s.

Glen Pounder

But my career has been a mixture of investigation and intelligence roles in the UK, but overseas as well. So one of my roles overseas was in Portugal back in 2003, between 2003 and 2009. And so, say, I was there for six years.

Glen Pounder

So if we want to speak Portuguese, we could do that as well. But one of the horrific cases I was involved in there was a child that went missing. Her name was Madeline McCann. So she made pretty much worldwide news.

Glen Pounder

So she went missing, effectively, on my watch. So that case is going to follow me around forever, Mike, because until she’s found or we get some resolution, that’s going to be bad days for me.

Mike Mann:

Explain to me how this is on your watch. I know that case. I mean, I’ve seen that on TV a bunch of times. It’s always bothered me.

Glen Pounder

Absolutely. So I was the British liaison officer in Portugal. So all British, all law enforcement liaison cases, intel, things that were going on in Portugal.

Mike Mann:

Well, it happened under, right, but you weren’t the law enforcement in Portugal though, but you were a deal with it after the fact you’re saying.

Glen Pounder

know, while it was happening because of course it’s effectively like

Mike Mann:

But I mean, it was like too late, basically, after you heard about it or knew any. I mean, it wasn’t your jurisdiction to monitor Portugal.

Glen Pounder

No, but what happens is that the FBI called this role an attache. So I was the British attache. So only a few months before Madeline was taken, we had a pedophile in the Algarve in Portugal, just a few miles down the road.

Glen Pounder

He was wounded in the UK. We managed to work with the Portuguese law enforcement and identify him, have him arrested and extradited back to the UK. So that’s the type of case we get involved in as liaison.

Glen Pounder

We’d be working directly with Portuguese law enforcement. So of course, when Madeline went missing, one of the first phone calls was from the Portuguese to me to say, I understand. Here’s what we’ve got.

Glen Pounder

We need to run criminal checks on everybody we can identify and figure out who might be the one who’s done this horrific crime.

Mike Mann:

You certainly didn’t commit the crime, so don’t take it personally. I’m sure you’re doing the best you can do.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, so yeah, I mean it was, as you can imagine, it became a full -time job, so I was involved in the first 10 days for 21 hours a day.

Mike Mann:

I forgot the latest, but I thought I’d seen a recent thing where I thought they had zoned in on somebody.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, in Germany they have a suspect, I believe, who very much fits what my personal opinion was that happened at the time, which was potentially that.

Mike Mann:

He was there a few miles away, right? Sounds like he’s the guy, I mean, you think?

Glen Pounder

Personally, I think that fits very well with what may have happened because where she was was very dark and even at nine o ‘clock at night it would have been quite easy unfortunately for somebody to get into that apartment and take my lead.

Mike Mann:

I mean, that’s the fault of the predator. It would be nice if the child was better protected, but there’s millions and millions of children.

Glen Pounder

Right, exactly. But I’m going to carry that case with me. I can’t help it. It’s just the way I am. Right. And when I went back from Portugal to the UK, I went back into a field office, so helping to run one of the regional field offices for the serious and organized crime agency, which eventually became the national crime agency in the UK, which is a bit like a mixture of FBI, DEA, Homeland Security in one agency.

Glen Pounder

And I was fortunate enough to be selected to be posted to the States back over here in Florida in Miami to the British Consulate. So I was posted back to the States in 2012. So I did five years in the US again as an attache.

Glen Pounder

So

Mike Mann:

They make you like cool little devices like James Bond.

Glen Pounder

I couldn’t confirm or deny that on this. No, absolutely not. It’s very much, it’s weird because of course, only in the UK could I make arrests. I couldn’t make arrests in the US because I didn’t have my powers here.

Glen Pounder

But by working closely with partners, you can have a real huge impact, much more than I would have had in the UK.

Mike Mann:

Okay, I wasn’t following the treaties perfectly.

Glen Pounder

Not quite, not so much.

Mike Mann:

Well, let me ask you in conclusion, just you mentioned, I think, Morocco. What are some other countries that you think you’ll be able to uncover with your technology in the near future? And how can people help you?

Glen Pounder

Yeah, so I’m hoping just to finish off on North Africa, we’re hoping for Algeria, Taiwan is a potential in the medium term as well. And some of this is what we try to do to say, hey, this technology will help you rescue kids because we already know that from the thousands of cases that have taken place using our technology.

Glen Pounder

But sometimes, it’s more about

Mike Mann:

That’s why it’s just if you don’t cover the whole globe the predators would keep moving So in my mind and you got to cover the whole globe

Glen Pounder

Absolutely. And unfortunately, you know, depending on the country, there’s not always dedicated resources. Like where we are in the US, there’s a network called the iCAC, the Internet Crimes Against Children.

Glen Pounder

So each state has dedicated resources for child protection. That doesn’t, that’s not, that’s not happening in every country around the world. So some of it is literally starting from scratch and say, Hey, guys, you know, you can’t have this left now with your postal service because VHS tapes is not the way it works anymore.

Glen Pounder

It has to be resource. And I know some countries and I’d rather not name them where child protection is still with a postal service. And that’s from back in the 90s, where, well, it was coming through the post.

Glen Pounder

And in the US, it used to be US Postal Service was responsible, right?

Mike Mann:

It is a problem that the technology keeps advancing and we know people use porn and worse with their technology, terrorism and child exploitation, etc. So the enforcement has to keep up with the technology forever.

Mike Mann:

There’s really no other choice.

Glen Pounder

It really is that. And again, a child rescue coalition, we are hyper aware of that right now and we’re working on some new technology to move into different areas of the internet where the bad guys move because we have to move with them.

Glen Pounder

And if that’s where the exploitation is taking place, well, then we need to build technology for law enforcement. That’s gonna help them because again, I worked for a major UK agency, but let’s say they had this technology, they use it in the UK, but they wouldn’t be able to say, okay, we can give this technology to France, to Brazil, where we as a nonprofit can say, yes, the decision’s made, it’s done.

Glen Pounder

We don’t have to think, well, our agency built this, can we give it to a foreign country? We don’t work like that. We give it free to all law enforcement everywhere.

Mike Mann:

Yeah, well, I’d be happy to talk to you more about this and you know, my group make change trust is going to help you. But just general, I know a ton of really smart technology people all over the world, then great things and great great software and build great companies and charities.

Mike Mann:

So I don’t know if it could help you or if you I don’t know enough about, you know, your network or whatever, but we’ll talk about it again soon. And you can come back whenever on the live stream and update people on what’s going on and how they can participate.

Glen Pounder

Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I’ll need to clear it with my CEO. But if it’s interesting for you guys to take another further glimpse down this rabbit hole, then we’d be happy to come back on and maybe do a little bit of a demo, which is quite disturbing, but obviously we wouldn’t show any illegal material.

Mike Mann:

Well, you know, there’s a lot of technology people watch my stuff. So we’d be happy to do that. You can think about what you want to do on the next broadcast when you come on.

Glen Pounder

Awesome, that would be great.

Mike Mann:

Thank you, half of everybody in the world, and myself and our live stream audience for everything you’re doing and for visiting with us. And there’s a permanent recording on YouTube that anybody can share and look back at what you’re doing and your mission.

Mike Mann:

And my commitment to help you is recorded right here.

Glen Pounder

Awesome. Thanks so much, Mike. And thanks to MakeChangeTrust for the support as well, because we think those videos will be very useful.

Mike Mann:

Cool, thank you so much, Glenn. Good luck with your weekend and we’ll talk to you again soon.

Glen Pounder

Thank you guys.

Mike Mann:

Awesome. So two great guests like usual. Amazing how well this has gone so far. We’ve done this like 16 times or so. So about 30 guests a couple of times. We only had one guest. So really excited that we’ve made all these awesome recordings of all these great people, charity and business leaders, domain leaders and bunch of smart, crazy people.

Mike Mann:

All sorts of different personalities. Glenn and Ron are very buttoned up. This has been a very adult -like, conservative broadcast so far. So now we’re gonna loosen things up with domain name appraising, which we started earlier on.

Mike Mann:

And we’re gonna jam up some more. You guys put some good domains up on my list here. I’m gonna check that out if you have any other great domains. You put a bunch of bad domains on here too. So, OTAHR, you’re gonna get dumped if you keep putting those on there.

Mike Mann:

I’m gonna go back up to the beginning. We already praisedmindinitiative .com for Hazarat. And went through the process. That one’s 10 ,000 bucks. Now you use tires .com for Howard Levy. I have to share my screen again to get this thing going.

Mike Mann:

So, we’re gonna do that right now.

Glen Pounder

it

Mike Mann:

Okay. I don’t know if we, I feel like we did use tires before. I don’t know. Anyway, use tires, sounds dangerous. We know what used tires are. And presumably we’re gonna use the default in our minds for car tires.

Mike Mann:

So again, we’re disambiguating it. Used car tire, sounds like a dangerous profession, but obviously there’s a lot of it. In Deerfield Beach, usedtires .com, hey, that’s interesting. They must be reading my geography.

Mike Mann:

When I do this with you guys, I should probably turn off my geography, so it gives a more generic results because Google knows my geography and it gives results weighted in my neighborhood. You can see a bunch of Fort Lauderdale stuff here.

Mike Mann:

And even we know what used tires are. And then the issue is the breadth, how many people might sell used tires? Not so familiar with that. And then who might give you the most money for it? That would be the depth.

Mike Mann:

We’ve disambiguated it. We’re doing the breadth and the depth. The breadth is any tire dealer who deals in used tires, which I wasn’t so familiar with. Looks like a lot of people, certainly in Florida.

Mike Mann:

And don’t ask me why, it sounds dangerous. But in any event, used tires and the depth, well, there’s a lot of money on cars and tires and automotive products. This is a pretty tight fit. It’s perfect context for the subject matter, used tires.

Mike Mann:

So it’s a really good name, easy to spell. It’s pretty short. It’s impossible to get wrong. You can tell your friend, go to usedtires .com. And they’ll probably spell without the D and take in used tires.

Mike Mann:

But that’s irrelevant, because that name would be worthless. So in any case, how do we figure out the price of this thing? It’s a guess, but in my case, I’ve done more appraisals and more domain sales than anybody.

Mike Mann:

So my guess is the best guess of it. So used tires, I’d say it’s a big market space. It’s worth 25 ,000. I wouldn’t drive on one, but it looks like there’s a big market for it and it’s a good domain name.

Mike Mann:

So 25 ,000 is a fair price. And again, I always sell these things at a discount because I need the cash flow. So presumably the owner would sell it at a discount if they needed the money. So I’ll do bendel .com, that rider put on for us.

Mike Mann:

I got to see how he spelled it actually. Bindel is a bag or a sack, very exciting. Okay, so first of all, disambiguation, what is it? It’s a bag or sack or carrying device. Huckleberry Finn comes to mind here and me hitchhiking as a teenager, although I didn’t actually use one of these.

Mike Mann:

I had my Mickey Mouse backpack. Not really. So we know what it is ostensibly. We’ll look at some pictures to make sure we got it right. Really is this thing on the end of a stick. I don’t know why it has to be, but there’s these dudes, bendel bros.

Mike Mann:

So it’s some kind of brand they’re using for whatever their show, their blog. Looks like they’re the highest depth, the biggest likely buyer, which even though they might not be the buyer, it should be priced as if they were the buyer conceptually.

Mike Mann:

This is, looks like a popular looking branded thing. Bindel life in a bottle, they put it on the bottle. Again, in the real world where I had more time, I’d research all these things in more detail. I’d have a bunch of tools and I’d have people help me.

Mike Mann:

This is bendelandkeep .com. So again, they’re using the word bendel spelled properly. It’s short, no, I didn’t know how to spell it. It is easy to spell, it’s just not a super common word, but bendelbottle, that’s probably that bottle we saw.

Mike Mann:

This thing looks pretty cool. So bendel, the dictionary word relatively easy to spell. There are brands already that exists with it. It’s a short word. Anybody could start a new brand and call it bendel.

Mike Mann:

If you make it contextual to your brand, to your company, you can make a movie called bendel about Huckleberry Finn, I suppose. You could sell really expensive leather bags called bendels. So there you have it, bendels are a cool thing.

Mike Mann:

And again, it’s just about making up a price. There’s no correct answer to this, but given that it’s so contextual and short, it’s a very powerful concept there. Dindal .com is worth 50 ,000. Congratulations to Hanful Moore and let you guys go enjoy the beach.

Mike Mann:

If you’re not near a beach, get in your car or get on the plane. Let’s see here, you guys put a bunch of crappy ones. So I’m gonna skip those and look for a couple new ones, of good ones.

Glen Pounder

Mm.

Mike Mann:

Where am I here? Just one sec please. OK, Ryder has fins .com, T -H -I -N -S. OTR has keyword, blueprint. Steven has 2 -V -I. So I’ll try to do some of those. Let’s start with 2 -V -I. It’s kind of a weird one, but that’s what appraising domains is about.

Mike Mann:

It’s weird and we have to figure out what they’re worth so we can sell them or delete them. It’d be hard to imagine wanting to delete such a short, cool, sounding name. It’s 2 -V -I. It’s kind of weird, but it’s just three letters and 2 -V -I could be 2 the Virgin Islands.

Mike Mann:

That’s what I’d use it for. I just told you guys to get on a plane and go to the beach. Next thing we appraised was 2 -V -I to the Virgin Islands. See how that works? And then you have your W9 2 -V -I.

Mike Mann:

That’s terribly exciting. Not. There’s a few different things going on with 2 -V -I, but I think the point is you could start something new, but it’s not terribly meaningful and contextual. So it was actually three letters and not without any number.

Mike Mann:

It would be really valuable, most likely depending on what those letters are. The V isn’t a great letter to use because there aren’t a terribly high number of things that use V in their initials. But again, we see here the U .S.

Mike Mann:

Virgin Islands. So 2 -V -I really, what does it mean? It means 2 the Virgin Islands. The breadth is travel companies that go back and forth to the Virgin Islands who could use hundreds of other potential travel domains.

Mike Mann:

The depth is nothing because nobody really needs it, but it is cool and it is short and it is three letters. So what is 2 -V -I .com worth? $3 ,000. Cool. Guys are great. Great, great, great. We’re going to do a few more here.

Mike Mann:

Hopefully I have some more tea so then I’ll fall asleep on you. Keywordblueprint .com from OTAR. Keyword Blueprint, 4 ,800 results in Google. This is a highly focused expression around the search engine optimization experience, which is something I’m familiar with as the owner of SEO .com Corporation.

Mike Mann:

Keyword Blueprint is actually an important and valuable thing, theoretically, but there’s a bunch of other ways of saying it. And not only that, there aren’t many people that trade in that expression at all.

Mike Mann:

So what does it mean? It’s sort of a way of describing your model, your plan for search engine optimization to get at the top of Google. So these persuasion work people are really good with keyword blueprinting and search engine optimization.

Mike Mann:

And the way I know that is because they’re at the top of the results. They’re the best with the whole search engine optimization experience when it comes to keyword blueprint keyword. Keeping in mind, there’s just so many other ways of saying it.

Mike Mann:

Keyword Blueprinting, keyword Blueprint, keyword, you know, there’s 10 other ways of saying that, whatever they are. We could use it for a thesaurus or look up common expressions, which we don’t have time for at the moment.

Mike Mann:

Google adds negative keyword blueprint keyword research. So what does it mean? We kind of know what it means around search engine optimizations. It’s a very specialized expression. And there’s a lot of ways of saying it.

Mike Mann:

The breadth is any search engine optimization firm app, which would include myself, theoretically, since I own one. And the depth is zero because nobody really needs it for anything. It’s kind of long and it’s not a popular expression.

Mike Mann:

There’s too many other ways of saying it. There’s a lot of search engine optimization companies, but they buy domains for really cheap or not at all, generally speaking. Not likely this name is going to receive a lot of demand.

Mike Mann:

So there you have it. Keyword Blueprint .com, 2000. I always end up in this link zone of $2 ,000 and $3 ,000 domains. I like doing more expensive ones, but… although we did do some more expensive ones, you know, already today, bindle .com for example.

Mike Mann:

All right, I’ll do a couple more and let you guys off the hook, go to VI, to the Virgin Islands. Rider has thins .com, t -h -i -n -s .com. Check that out. Thins, okay, there’s these wheat bins, good bins, so it’s food, ostensibly.

Mike Mann:

Well, it really is food, every, well, hey, that’s awesome. Okay, so what does it mean? It means any food that’s thin. Turns out there’s a bunch of multi -billion dollar corporations that trade in food that’s thin for thin people, right?

Mike Mann:

Hey, you won’t believe this, I’m actually getting a call from St. Thomas. I’ve just been sitting here talking about the Virgin Islands for the last 10 minutes and I have a call on caller ID that says St.

Mike Mann:

Thomas. And I don’t know anybody in St. Thomas at the moment, so it’s an interesting coincidence that the Spammers in the Virgin Islands, they need a domain name. With respect to thins, that’s a much better name than I expected, because again, these are huge corporations here.

Mike Mann:

Nabisco and Reese’s Corporation, Blue Diamond Corporation. These guys have billions of dollars and they’re selling things called thin, so thins are food is the disambiguation. You could use it in other industries, but we see that this is clearly the most popular one.

Mike Mann:

Also make sure you never eat this thing. Egg thins with cauliflower, that’s absolutely disgusting. Those people should immediately be arrested by the new administration. I can’t even believe somebody invented that, how heinous.

Mike Mann:

So in any event, let’s see if these things are any good. I’m getting hungry. Sandwich thins, these look good. So thins are food, again, these companies are huge. Nabisco, the stone people sell thins.

Mike Mann:

There’s wheat thins, a lot of these are Nabisco, knows that the word thins implies for thin people or people that wanna be thin. So again, it’s a trick to put that on your cookies. These are all cookies, crackers and cookies, thin, thin, thin, because hey, thin is in.

Mike Mann:

I mean, Oreo thins, what kind of scam is that? You just eat 10 times as many of them. Does that really make you thin? Thin potato chips. It’s just a scam. This is, what’s with these cauliflower thin people?

Mike Mann:

They’re trying to torture us. Well, there’s an awesome name, so the breadth is that any food corporation or anybody inventing new gym related, health related things could use that name. You could use it as an acronym and make up any company name.

Mike Mann:

It’s a great name in the dictionary, easy to say, easy to spell, has a lot of meaning, a lot of depth. These huge corporations use that word. And I’m hungry. I guess we have to do an appraisal. So the price of this thing is thins .com, which I own that one.

Mike Mann:

We’re gonna say 60 ,000 is their price. Good job. Last one, hope you guys put something good up there for me. Definitely put a lot of bad ones. You have Miami property brokers. It’s a cool name, but it’s not that valuable.

Mike Mann:

Fast, a lot of properties of massager, MT, repowering, that sounds pretty cool. To donate food. Okay, we’re gonna try repowering .com. So it’s probably not that valuable, but hopefully I’m wrong. This is the last one.

Mike Mann:

Thank you guys so much for visiting with me. Again, with respect to repowering, first, what does it mean? It has something to do with recharging wind turbines. So that’s good, it actually means something.

Mike Mann:

So we’re onto something here. Probably more valuable than I expected. Repowering wind farm sites. It sounds like maybe they’re not profitable. They have to do something else for placing older power stations with newer ones.

Mike Mann:

Well, there you have it. So we know what it means. Siemens Energy, multi -billion dollar corporation. So the breadth is anybody in the solar wind energy, alternative energy space, which aren’t that many people, but the people that are in there are very profitable and very large.

Mike Mann:

And the depth is pretty cool. Looks like a popular word, 800 ,000 results in Google. Tons of crazy stuff going on here in the Google Imaging. It’s actually a really great name, so repowering London on Twitter.

Mike Mann:

So this is awesome, repowering schools. So again, this is the whole point of domain investing, and I’m glad we got to end on this note. As I looked at this name, it sounded kind of bad, and it turns out it’s great.

Mike Mann:

I’m happy about that, other than the fact that I don’t own it. So again, we know what it means. We know the depth, the breadth, and the depth of it. And we have to come up with a price, which isn’t that simplistic.

Mike Mann:

But considering the size of these companies and that it also includes schools in various different spaces, these people are investing millions and billions of dollars in big corporations. And I barely did any research, and I already found a bunch of relevant information context.

Mike Mann:

So we’re going to go high on the pricing of repowering .com. And we’ll go for $50 ,000. And thank you guys very much for another awesome day. My guests, Ron and Glenn, were fabulous. I’m so blessed and thankful for them.

Mike Mann:

And for you guys, we’re going to save this broadcast forever. Encourage you to watch it and share it. And join me again on our next broadcast. Thank you guys so much. Peace to you. Have a nice day.